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    Dwarf Fortress ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 05:07 PM PDT

    Ask about anything related to Dwarf Fortress - including the game, utilities, bugs, problems you're having, mods, etc. You will get fast and friendly responses in this thread.

    Read the sidebar before posting! It has information on a range of game packages for new players, and links to all the best tutorials and quick-start guides. If you have read it and that hasn't helped, mention that!

    You should also take five minutes to search the wiki - if tutorials or the quickstart guide can't help, it usually has the information you're after. You can find the previous questions thread here.

    If you can answer questions, please sort by new and lend a hand - linking to a helpful resource (eg wiki page) is fine.

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    ☼Fortress Friday☼

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 05:07 PM PDT

    Our weekly thread for posting interesting events without cluttering up /r/dwarffortress. Screenshots, stories, details, achievements, or other posts are all welcome here! (That includes adventure and legends mode, even if there's no fortress involved.)

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    Explaining DF to my Sister

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:47 PM PDT

    Sister:

    What's going on in your game?

    Me:

    Well, we were sick of allowing visitors into our fort only for them to get in drunken brawls and steal our shit so we built this quaint inn called the Hungry Road and banished all outsiders from our fort. We stocked it full of food and drink so our guests would be happy and we could dine in peace. It was only open for two months before a poet transformed into a werecoyote and started slaughtering everyone inside!

    Not wanting to deal with werebeast shenanigans, we closed up the fort and let nature run it's course, hoping it would kill everyone and leave. Unfortunately it left enough alive for there to 3 new werecoyotes which resulted in wave after wave of new were coyotes and slaughtered guests. Our shiny new inn was now covered in blood, gore and corpses. Eventually only one werebeast was left and had transformed back into its normal form when all of a sudden a necromancer turns up for a visit, probably attracted by the stench of death.

    At this point, we'd been locked down for nearly a year and things in the fort are starting to get a bit dicey. Turns out, not all the guests had managed to leave the fort before we closed the gates and were now trying to exist through our sewage tunnels and had gotten trapped. We also learned that an elf had fallen down the well at some point but because she is immortal she didn't starve to death and was just sitting naked and raving mad in a sewer u-bend. At least she had friends now.

    So while we're trying to rescue these visitors, we're also gearing up to go slaughter the last remaining werebeast.

    And man was I stupid.

    Of course, the full moon isn't the same time each month. We'd been doing our calculations based on the date of the first bite!

    So my best men go tromping off toward the blood soaked tavern. Before they even arrive, the werecoyote transforms, the visiting necromancers flips his shit and resurrects all of the dead visitors AND dead werecoyotes! So now the tavern is filled with incredibly powerful undead and when my soldiers get with spitting distance, they're swarmed.

    We were in such shock that we had neglected to recluse the gate and some bitten soldiers had gotten back into the fort! So many in fact that we had to abandon the fort to ruin and flee!

    Sister:

    Fucking necromancers.

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    Here are the four principal races and a bunch of animal men, all with aprox size and how I see them, hope you all like it :)

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 05:05 PM PDT

    Strained relations with the elves, but I still want to trade with them. Making a bunch of trade goods just for them out of some excess metal.

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 08:02 PM PDT

    Why are there so many. I only have four cats.

    Posted: 16 Oct 2020 10:15 AM PDT

    Here I am again, some of you wanted to see my gorlaks and kobolds, and here they are :) By the way I am doing comissions if you are interested

    Posted: 16 Oct 2020 11:37 AM PDT

    Lesson Learned about Were-Creatures

    Posted: 16 Oct 2020 09:54 AM PDT

    Lesson Learned about Were-Creatures

    I had like two dwarves turn to Were-lizards and thought nothing of it cause they were disposed of quickly and no one showed up to the hospital. I thought to read the combat log to determine if any blood was drawn during the fighting, but I'm new and kind of lazy with that sort of thing. Anyways a while later, 10 dwarves turn into Were-lizards and like 10ish dwarves die from the brawl that broke out. Since, I was busy trying to save a dude stuck in a cavern, the bodies were all cleaned up and entombed. The next time, 20 Were-lizards turned and the carnage all over the fort has broken the spirits of my dwarves. Learn from my mistakes to prevent temples dedicated to Armok from being desiccated by un-pured dwarven blood.

    Werelizard Attack

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    Putting my Necromancer in my Militia was apparently a Mistake

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 06:37 PM PDT

    Love Attack

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 01:39 PM PDT

    Streaming DF now, experiments with memories and stress. The combat pit is built, the traps are ready and we'll test it with the next invasion (VOD will be linked in the comments after the stream is ended)

    Posted: 16 Oct 2020 12:18 AM PDT

    So this is how my fortress ends... with a single Werelizard attack

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:56 PM PDT

    100% reproductible crash on Masterwork when digging

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 03:28 PM PDT

    I get a pretty much 100% crash when starting to dig in a new fort on the latest DF Masterwork. Now, it's been a while since I played either vanilla or modded, so I may have screwed something up in the settings, but this repeated crash renders this new fort unplayable and creates a fear I might run into the same issue later - only with a few dozen hours invested instead of 30 minutes.

    Here's errorlog.txt for the crash - any idea how to get it working right, or would I just be better off running vanilla?

    *** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region3/raw/objects/creature_random_myth_beast_standard_mdf.txt"

    SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used

    SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used

    *** Error(s) finalizing the entity NIGHTCREATURE

    Unrecognized entity creature token: NIGHTCREATURE

    *** Error(s) finalizing the entity TITANS

    Unrecognized entity creature token: TITAN

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    Tutorial Fortress Part 21 - Blood Bath & Beyond

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:01 PM PDT

    Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf: Day 15 (Extra Life 2020!) 7pm EDT!

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 03:10 PM PDT

    (TREE FARM ONE IS GO. TREE FARM TWO IS SETTING UP. MAGMA WORKSHOPS... ARE STILL COMING. '\.^))

    ----------------------------------------Who's this guy?----------------------------------------

    Hey guys!

    it's been a year or better since I really was able to stream for any length of time. Did you miss me? I know I have been missing me. I'm /u/Nameless_Archon, and I provide tutorials on how to play Dwarf Fortress every year (health permitting) while I try to raise money for sick kids.

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    What in the name of the glowing pits is this about?

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    It is time to return to our roots, and so we shall: Thirty. Eight. Days. Of. Dwarf.

    Starting on 10/1 and proceeding through the Extra Life 2019 Game Day event on 11/7, I'm going to stream and teach what little I know.

    Dwarves. Every. Single. Day.

    ----------------------------------------But why?----------------------------------------

    I like to do things when there's more than one reason to do them:

    • It's for charity. I get to collect money for the very same hospital that once helped me as a child.
    • I like to teach, or at least I have in the past when my health has allowed it.
    • People (crazy people, apparently) like my stream, when I do it.
    • People are always complaining that Dwarf Fortress is hard to learn. (Not really, but let's show it.)
    • It raises the profile of Dwarf Fortress, a game I regard as a seminal work and personally enjoy.

    ----------------------------------------So how's this going to work?----------------------------------------

    We've started out like I usually do - streaming a basic, sustainable fortress. However, the reality of the situation is that thirty-three days of Basic Base Building 101 is going to probably bore the pants off people (including me) and I don't really want things to be boring. So we're going to have to do a few things along the way to try to spice things up, and along the way likely reveal that I'm just an average player like everyone else. (Dwarves dying of starvation and frostbite on a glacier? Likelier than you think!)

    Basically, I'll stream in the evenings most days for a few hours. On Saturdays and Sundays, we'll generally run a little longer, but I'm going to stream every day until 11/7 even if it means I have to get up at 3am to do it. On 11/7, we're going to culminate with a 24-hour long livestream, as part of the worldwide Extra Life charity event.

    I don't use Twitter, Facebook, etc. and people may want to donate to Extra Life 2020, even if they're not supporting my efforts directly. Feel free to share my donations link, or to direct people to the charity's main page.

    ----------------------------------------So what's in it for viewers?----------------------------------------

    Well, aside from helping to support my local children's hospital (good vibes, ho!) I'll be pushing out tutorial game(s) live on stream as part of the event. Your donations are a spur in that direction applied to my backside. You can even attend the event with me, since I'll be broadcasting live on my stream the whole time!

    ...but if that's not enough for you?

    • There's a callout for donations so everyone can see your generosity!

    Anonymous or not, everyone will know you're supporting kids that need it.

    • Donate $10 or more and you may request to have a dwarf named in current and future forts!

    If you're not naming him something awful, it'll even happen. You're welcome to request a trade for the dwarf, if I have one suitable to match it! If we run more than one fort, donator dwarves will show up in all forts after the one where you donated!

    SEVERAL DONATORS HAVE CLAIMED A NAMED MIGRANT FOR ALL 38 DAYS. Are you next?

    • For $25 or more, you can reserve one of the starting seven instead of a.. <.< >.> ...migrant.

    If none are available, I'll have to use a migrant. (There are still some dwarves remaining as of this writing, but I won't be advising when the window closes... We call this 'Early cat catches the dwarf'. Move fast.) As above, if you donate on the first fort of our event, we'll put that same dwarf into the starting seven every fort thereafter!

    SOME OF THE STARTING SEVEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLAIMED! Will yours be next?

    • For a donation of $100, I'll let you flip the script for a bit.

    Want me to embark on a reanimating evil biome with a necromancer next door? It's your call. I'll save the current stream fort, and start a new one on the spot with settings as close to your request as I can manage on the fly, and run with it until it dies or I do. If someone else flips the script on you before I finish, you can either donate again to flip if back or wait for their fort to exhaust before I resume yours. Your choice. (We call this one 'Last dwarf gets the sock.')

    • Feeling your oats? If you're willing to drop $500, I'll let you flip the whole table and pick the game I'm playing!

    Some limits on this are required for sanity's sake. Let's talk first.

    At some point, I'll get back to the stream fort, but for a truly generous donation, I'm 100% willing to give up some time and show off anything you'd like, live and on the spot. You can find a link to my Steam profile (which contains a list of potential games I could probably get set up for streaming) here if you're considering this. (And if it's something we can do multiplayer, we can even try that too, which would be a stream first.)

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    Wait....Thirty days of tutorials for Dwarf Fortress as part of a charity drive?

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    Thirty-eight days, actually. It was the wife's idea - she suggested that you folks might like to get a newer version of my original tutorial, and that this might be a good avenue to combine hardcore Dwarf Fortress fanatics, who are already a generous and supporting community, with a charitable cause to support. I didn't have much luck finding a flaw in her reasoning, so I bit the bullet and advertised it at work, too, despite my trepidation regarding drawing personal attention there. (Last year, they contributed only a sixth of our total collection, because the players and viewers - people like you and I - were far more generous!)

    ---------------------------------------- New and Uncertain Players: ----------------------------------------

    We'll be putting the newest version of the starter pack and Dwarf Fortress through its paces as we (attempt to) start a new tutorial series for v 0.47.04. (Note: If there's an update and it seems relatively bug free, I'll try for the newer version, but I'm aiming this at newer players, so trying to ride the cutting edge isn't really in the cards.)

    Past demonstrations (From v.34 to present) have included glaciers, deserts, sites with necromancer towers adjacent (like Day 1 this year...) as well as discussion on how to influence worldgen to get what you want. Our first one will be a more sedate embark, designed and chosen for relatively newer players, and we'll start with worldgen as though we're looking at a fresh install.

    Goal:

    My goal for "Tutorial Night" is to walk new players through an embark using the DF Starter Pack. (Explicit thanks to /u/PeridexisErrant and others who I admire for their dedication, which is studded with perseverance and ringed with bands of my gratitude! Without those efforts, a tutorial for installing and configuring everything for the game and its add-ons would be a sizable task unto itself. I've actually devoted many hours of stream to demonstrating it 'the hard way'!)

    Along the way, I'll provide examples of the setup and tools I use to play Dwarf Fortress, as a guidepost for new players.

    What I'm really trying to do is give new players a reference point they can come back to on how to set up a world, embark on a site, and stand a reasonable chance of employing a fairly basic and standard design to build a workable fortress wherever they may need to start one.

    Stream Info:

    The channel rules are simple: Respect Wheaton's Law and you'll be fine. Just don't expect the content of the broadcast to be 100% suitable for children; Sorry, kids. I'm much too low-brow for a guaranteed clean broadcast. Get your parents' permission, etc etc.

    If you have questions you might like answered with a demonstration, and not simply a quick post in the weekly questions thread, I'm your guy. I'll do my best to demonstrate just about anything you can think up - aquifers, megaprojects and magma pistons aside. (Minecarts may get covered, but don't expect anything computational or timer based - I'm a casual player, not a dwarven mechanical engineer.)

    You can view the stream here, as well as on the donations page for Extra Life.

    Later Goals:

    At some point in this fortress, I'll walk players through my 'most commonly used' tools in DFHack and in the utilities that come packaged in the DF Starter Pack and how I use them to construct a simple, basic, and tightly run fortress that can support as many dwarves as my PC can haul, defend itself against all comers, and handle just about anything. I also will demonstrate Quickfort at some point for those who've never taken advantage of it!

    We'll certainly touch on Dwarf Therapist, and discuss how I use it to control the behavior and organization of my ants dwarves, including a demonstration of custom professions in action. Sound will be provided by Soundsense so that you're not listening to me play in silence during any lulls, and the off-topic interaction between the audience and myself tends toward the lively (and often ribald).

    New players, your questions (no matter how 'silly' you may think they are) are 100% welcome, as they're the whole point to the broadcast! Join us and ask them!

    If you can't make it (or are not willing to brave my often vulgar displays of unsuitability) and still have questions you can't seem to figure out, post them in the DF Bi-Weekly Questions Thread for this week and I'll do my best to help you overcome your obstacles, if the expert players haven't gotten there first!

    (Obligatory: Yesss... Join usss... Join the Dark Side... We have cookies!)

    ---------------------------------------- More advanced players: ----------------------------------------

    On that note, experienced players who want to follow along are certainly welcome (and often manage to teach me a thing or two, directly or not) but the main thrust of the stream will be to help new players get over the introductory hump to start playing at a deeper level, so you may find yourself paying less attention to the pace of the stream and more attention to your fellow audience members. I do love having a few veterans show up, though, because my fortress designs always get better when I'm shown a method I've never used!

    ----------------------------------------Parting Words---------------------------------------

    Please don't go. The children need you.

    Please donate if you are able.

    On behalf of Riley and Extra Life: Thank you, in advance, for your generosity!

    ---------------------------------------- !!EVENT NAVIGATION BAR!! ----------------------------------------

    <= Prior Day (Day 14) - Next Event (Day 16) =>

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    ----------------------------------------Progress Readout----------------------------------------

    1. Pre-Broadcast: Completed. You're reading it. You could have read it before this, but I'm lazy and I'm blaming the Automod, since that was the real reason one time a few years ago. Don't tell anyone.
    2. Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf: This is tonight from 7pm-10pm EDT! Within 14 days, the VOD will still be up at Twitch (-link pending-) but after that, you'll need to wait for a Youtube upload, which may take some time.
    3. Day 15 Youtube Upload ( -link pending- ) is pending broadcast completion!

    Special thanks to this year's donators!

    - Clinodev (!) - still wants a wax worker!

    - Valdimar (!) - randomly selected for engraving and spelunking, depending on the whims of fate! Now with apprentices!

    - Estacaco

    - Marshall DK (!)

    - Veliq (!)

    - Sicarius (!) - a mason!

    - Adrian (!) - A carpenter!

    - (!! ☼ /u/Kruggsmashdf and his Bearded Bastards ☼ !!)

    - BlindIRL

    - Derek (!)

    - Thomas (!)

    We're also 70% of the way to our initial goal! THANK YOU TO THE GENEROUS!

    ---------------------------------------- Fortresses To Date ----------------------------------------

    1. Tossidur Berim: Succumbed to "necromancer guest bug". (Bug: Necromancers are treated as guests, and can walk right in over the traps in 47.04, then bring their minions into the fort for fun too. Whooooops.)
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