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    Dwarf Fortress ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    Dwarf Fortress ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼


    ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 04:08 PM PST

    Ask about anything related to Dwarf Fortress - including the game, utilities, bugs, problems you're having, mods, etc. You will get fast and friendly responses in this thread.

    Read the sidebar before posting! It has information on a range of game packages for new players, and links to all the best tutorials and quick-start guides. If you have read it and that hasn't helped, mention that!

    You should also take five minutes to search the wiki - if tutorials or the quickstart guide can't help, it usually has the information you're after. You can find the previous questions thread here.

    If you can answer questions, please sort by new and lend a hand - linking to a helpful resource (eg wiki page) is fine.

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    ☼Fortress Friday☼

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 04:08 PM PST

    Our weekly thread for posting interesting events without cluttering up /r/dwarffortress. Screenshots, stories, details, achievements, or other posts are all welcome here! (That includes adventure and legends mode, even if there's no fortress involved.)

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    While testing my adventure mode plotting system. I decided to create an appropriate adventurer for it.

    Posted: 06 Nov 2020 02:20 AM PST

    Strange mood dwarf wants silk... a LOT of silk. Almost the whole fort's efforts ground to a halt trying to get them enough silk for their damn artifact. Six pages and counting and it's STILL not enough!

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 02:07 PM PST

    I have once again made the mistake of trying an above ground base...

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 11:32 PM PST

    My fingers hurt so much

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    Useless things

    Posted: 06 Nov 2020 04:04 AM PST

    Hello,i was wondering with this much stuff existing in Dwarf Fortress,what are the most useless items,things,mechanics and features?

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    Understanding Stockpiles

    Posted: 06 Nov 2020 08:53 AM PST

    I have been through the wiki and watched several videos on the concept of stockpiles, but as a new player my own implementation almost never works the way I intend and I'm wondering if maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.

    Typically at the beginning of a fortress I set up an initial stockpile of wood right outside the entryway so that I can chain it into more useful piles in the crafting hall. Further inside and out of the weather, I set up a stockpile for the cart stocks (except wood, stone, gems, and blocks). Then each workshop gets its own input stockpile and output stockpile (vertically across 2-3 z-levels and connected with lower hallways with 2x2 stairs on either side).

    My problem is with the workshop piles. Wood gets filled in relatively quickly like it's supposed to but the stone and gem piles almost never get touched. Sometimes I can designate a few haulers and extra wheelbarrows to the stone pile and it will encourage them to work but it's not always the case.

    Furthermore the Jeweler, the Mason, and the Craftsdwarf refuse to use their designated piles, choosing instead to wander around aimlessly collecting material to craft with. This is one of the more confusing issues as the input stockpiles are always set to "give" to their appropriate workshops and the output piles are always set to "take" from their appropriate workshops (or other resupply piles). I toggle "linked only" for all of them and only use wheelbarrows for the stone pile and turn off barrels and containers for the rest. The Craftsdwarf and the Jeweler won't use their output stocks either most of the time and typically run everything to the wagon stock, which burns a LOT of their time. Dedicated haulers haven't solved this problem either and my fortress typically goes unsorted and eventually grinds to a halt. I've tried forbidding certain items from main-room stocks but that doesn't seem to help.

    Am I doing something wrong? Could someone ELI5 the stockpile system in Dwarf Fortress?

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    Invisible weregila

    Posted: 06 Nov 2020 06:32 AM PST

    Hey everyone ! I was casually training myself to play dwarf fortress (only beginning, it's so cool!) And a weregila arrived. I see the weregila fighting in a report, but I don't see it in the unit tab and I don't see it on the surface either.. even if I go on zoom in the report of the weregila fighting. Is that a bug or is it normal? Edit: I actually see it, but after he killed a random visiting dwarf outside my fortress, while being invisible. And he became visible while approaching the entrance of my fortress.. strange ! Cheers,

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    Finally managed to learn enough to survive 3 years. And thanks to some of you good people I may survive my first invasion. Will be making a very evil series of traps to utilise this space better soon.

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 06:15 PM PST

    Can't wait to see how this plays out.

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 07:25 PM PST

    Just so everyone knows, I currently have this really weird formation on my current embark. Giant sinkhole pit, dozen or so z deep. Looks for all the world like the surface collapsed into the caverns somehow. The lake just north of it it on a level with the ... plateau top? Was frozen when I arrived. Just thawed out. That bad boy just drained all the water in that big section out down the creek and tidal waved the lower third of the map, down in that sinkhole. Now it looks like the rest of the lake (off the map) is trying to drain into the big empty hole that was left behind.

    Did not know such things could happen.

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    That moment you forget you gave out nicknames and you feel sad all over again for this kid

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 07:08 PM PST

    Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf: Day 36 (Extra Life 2020!) 7pm EDT!

    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 03:57 PM PST

    (THREE DAYS FOR MURKBRIDGE - RISE TO RETIRE)

    ----------------------------------------Who's this guy?-------------------------------

    Hey guys!

    I'm /u/Nameless_Archon, and I provide tutorials on how to play Dwarf Fortress every year (health permitting) while I try to raise money for sick kids.

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    What in the name of the glowing pits is this about?

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    It is time to return to our roots, and so we shall: Thirty. Eight. Days. Of. Dwarf.

    Starting on 10/1 and proceeding through the Extra Life 2019 Game Day event on 11/7, I'm going to stream and teach what little I know at https://www.twitch.tv/nirruden.

    Dwarves. Every. Single. Day.

    ----------------------------------------But why?----------------------------------------

    I like to do things when there's more than one reason to do them:

    • It's for charity.
    • I get to collect money for the very same hospital that once helped me as a child.
    • I like to teach, or at least I have in the past when my health has allowed it.
    • It's for charity.
    • People (crazy people, apparently) like my stream, when I do it.
    • People are always complaining that Dwarf Fortress is hard to learn. (Not really, but let's show it.)
    • It's for charity.
    • It raises the profile of Dwarf Fortress, a game I regard as a seminal work and personally enjoy.

    -------------------------So how's this going to work?-------------------------

    We've started out like I usually do - streaming a basic, sustainable fortress. However, the reality of the situation is that thirty-three days of Basic Base Building 101 is going to probably bore the pants off people (including me) and I don't really want things to be boring. So we're going to have to do a few things along the way to try to spice things up, and along the way likely reveal that I'm just an average player like everyone else. (Dwarves dying of starvation and frostbite on a glacier? Likelier than you think!)

    Basically, I'll stream in the evenings most days for a few hours. On Saturdays and Sundays, we'll generally run a little longer, but I'm going to stream every day until 11/7 even if it means I have to get up at 3am to do it. On 11/7, we're going to culminate with a 24-hour long livestream, as part of the worldwide Extra Life charity event.

    I don't use Twitter, Facebook, etc. and people may want to donate to Extra Life 2020, even if they're not supporting my efforts directly. Feel free to share my donations link, or to direct people to the charity's main page.

    --------------------------So what's in it for viewers?---------------------------

    Well, aside from helping to support my local children's hospital (good vibes, ho!) I'll be pushing out tutorial game(s) live on stream as part of the event. Your donations are a spur in that direction applied to my backside. You can even attend the event with me, since I'll be broadcasting live on my stream the whole time!

    ...but if that's not enough for you?

    • There's a callout for donations so everyone can see your generosity!

    Anonymous or not, everyone will know you're supporting kids that need it.

    • Donate $10 or more and you may request to have a dwarf named in current and future forts!

    If you're not naming him something awful, it'll even happen. You're welcome to request a trade for the dwarf, if I have one suitable to match it! If we run more than one fort, donator dwarves will show up in all forts after the one where you donated!

    SEVERAL DONATORS HAVE CLAIMED A NAMED MIGRANT FOR ALL 38 DAYS. Are you next?

    • For $25 or more, you can reserve one of the starting seven instead of a.. <.< >.> ...migrant.

    If none are available, I'll have to use a migrant. (We call this 'Early cat catches the dwarf'. Move fast.) As above, if you donate on the first fort of our event, we'll put that same dwarf into the starting seven every fort thereafter!

    SOME OF THE STARTING SEVEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLAIMED! Will yours be next?

    • For a donation of $100, I'll let you flip the script for a bit.

    Want me to embark on a reanimating evil biome with a necromancer next door? It's your call. I'll save the current stream fort, and start a new one on the spot with settings as close to your request as I can manage on the fly, and run with it until it dies or I do. If someone else flips the script on you before I finish, you can either donate again to flip if back or wait for their fort to exhaust before I resume yours. Your choice. (We call this one 'Last dwarf gets the sock.')

    • Feeling your oats? If you're willing to drop $500, I'll let you flip the whole table and pick the game I'm playing!

    Some limits on this are required for sanity's sake. Let's talk first.

    At some point, I'll get back to the stream fort, but for a truly generous donation, I'm 100% willing to give up some time and show off anything you'd like, live and on the spot. You can find a link to my Steam profile (which contains a list of potential games I could probably get set up for streaming) here if you're considering this. (And if it's something we can do multiplayer, we can even try that too, which would be a stream first.)

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    Wait....Thirty days of tutorials for Dwarf Fortress as part of a charity drive?

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    Thirty-eight days, actually. It was the wife's idea - she suggested that you folks might like to get a newer version of my original tutorial, and that this might be a good avenue to combine hardcore Dwarf Fortress fanatics, who are already a generous and supporting community, with a charitable cause to support. I didn't have much luck finding a flaw in her reasoning, so I bit the bullet and advertised it at work, too, despite my trepidation regarding drawing personal attention there. (Last year, they contributed only a sixth of our total collection, because the players and viewers - people like you and I - were far more generous!)

    ------------------------- New and Uncertain Players: ----------------------

    We'll be putting the newest version of the starter pack and Dwarf Fortress through its paces as we (attempt to) start a new tutorial series for v 0.47.04. (Note: If there's an update and it seems relatively bug free, I'll try for the newer version, but I'm aiming this at newer players, so trying to ride the cutting edge isn't really in the cards.)

    Past demonstrations (From v.34 to present) have included glaciers, deserts, sites with necromancer towers adjacent (like Day 1 this year...) as well as discussion on how to influence worldgen to get what you want. Our first one will be a more sedate embark, designed and chosen for relatively newer players, and we'll start with worldgen as though we're looking at a fresh install.

    Goal:

    My goal for "Tutorial Night" is to walk new players through an embark using the DF Starter Pack. (Explicit thanks to /u/PeridexisErrant and others who I admire for their dedication, which is studded with perseverance and ringed with bands of my gratitude! Without those efforts, a tutorial for installing and configuring everything for the game and its add-ons would be a sizable task unto itself. I've actually devoted many hours of stream to demonstrating it 'the hard way'!)

    Along the way, I'll provide examples of the setup and tools I use to play Dwarf Fortress, as a guidepost for new players.

    What I'm really trying to do is give new players a reference point they can come back to on how to set up a world, embark on a site, and stand a reasonable chance of employing a fairly basic and standard design to build a workable fortress wherever they may need to start one.

    Stream Info:

    The channel rules are simple: Respect Wheaton's Law and you'll be fine. Just don't expect the content of the broadcast to be 100% suitable for children; Sorry, kids. I'm much too low-brow for a guaranteed clean broadcast. Get your parents' permission, etc etc.

    If you have questions you might like answered with a demonstration, and not simply a quick post in the weekly questions thread, I'm your guy. I'll do my best to demonstrate just about anything you can think up - aquifers, megaprojects and magma pistons aside. (Minecarts may get covered, but don't expect anything computational or timer based - I'm a casual player, not a dwarven mechanical engineer.)

    You can view the stream here, as well as on the donations page for Extra Life.

    Later Goals:

    At some point in this fortress, I'll walk players through my 'most commonly used' tools in DFHack and in the utilities that come packaged in the DF Starter Pack and how I use them to construct a simple, basic, and tightly run fortress that can support as many dwarves as my PC can haul, defend itself against all comers, and handle just about anything. I also will demonstrate Quickfort at some point for those who've never taken advantage of it!

    We'll certainly touch on Dwarf Therapist, and discuss how I use it to control the behavior and organization of my ants dwarves, including a demonstration of custom professions in action. Sound will be provided by Soundsense so that you're not listening to me play in silence during any lulls, and the off-topic interaction between the audience and myself tends toward the lively (and often ribald).

    New players, your questions (no matter how 'silly' you may think they are) are 100% welcome, as they're the whole point to the broadcast! Join us and ask them!

    If you can't make it (or are not willing to brave my often vulgar displays of unsuitability) and still have questions you can't seem to figure out, post them in the DF Bi-Weekly Questions Thread for this week and I'll do my best to help you overcome your obstacles, if the expert players haven't gotten there first!

    (Obligatory: Yesss... Join usss... Join the Dark Side... We have cookies!)

    ------------------------ More advanced players: ------------------------------

    On that note, experienced players who want to follow along are certainly welcome (and often manage to teach me a thing or two, directly or not) but the main thrust of the stream will be to help new players get over the introductory hump to start playing at a deeper level, so you may find yourself paying less attention to the pace of the stream and more attention to your fellow audience members. I do love having a few veterans show up, though, because my fortress designs always get better when I'm shown a method I've never used!

    --------------------------------Parting Words----------------------------------------

    Please don't go. The children need you.

    Please donate if you are able.

    On behalf of Riley and Extra Life: Thank you, in advance, for your generosity!

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    <= Prior Day (Day 35) - Next Event (Day 37) =>

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    ----------------------------------------Progress Readout---------------------------

    1. Pre-Broadcast: Completed. You're reading it. You could have read it before this, but I'm lazy and I'm blaming the Automod, since that was the real reason one time a few years ago. Don't tell anyone.
    2. Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf: This is tonight from 7pm-10pm EDT! Within 14 days, the VOD will still be up at Twitch (-link pending-) but after that, you'll need to wait for a Youtube upload, which may take some time.
    3. Day 36 Youtube Upload ( -link pending- ) is pending broadcast completion!

    Special thanks to this year's donators!

    - Clinodev (!) - still wants a wax worker!

    - Valdimar (!) - randomly selected for engraving and spelunking, depending on the whims of fate! Now with apprentices!

    - Estacaco

    - Marshall DK (!)

    - Veliq (!)

    - Sicarius (!) - a mason, and now a priest!

    - Adrian (!) - A carpenter!

    - (!! ☼ /u/Kruggsmashdf and his Bearded Bastards ☼ !!)

    - BlindIRL

    - Derek (!)

    - Driflo (!)

    - Thomas (!)

    - AdamFedo (!)

    - Tomric (!)

    - DarkCookie(!)

    - Adrian (!!)

    - Esse Coissa (!!)

    - AND SOME ANONYMOUS DONATORS TOO (!!)

    We're also 100% of the way to our initial goal ($1000) and just a little over 2/3rds to our stretch goal of breaking our previous record of $1575.89!

    THANK YOU TO THE GENEROUS!

    ---------------------------------- Fortresses To Date ------------------------------

    • Tossidur Berim (The Armored Fist of Artifice): Succumbed to "necromancer guest bug". (Bug: Necromancers are treated as guests, and can walk right in over the traps in 47.04, then bring their minions into the fort for fun too. Whooooops.) Necromancers are now, unfortunately, disabled. I do not like it, but I ain't going to lose fort after fort to them: I'm a gamer, not a professional masochist.
    • IronPrice: Retired peacefully as an archived save now that tree farm and magma workshop demos are done.
    • TomeStake: Happier than prior forts, encouraging blank slate hypothesis experimentation for our next fort. Two-way water trap, both drowning and flushing trap... but started to crash, so we moved on.
    • MurkBridge: Three Days from Rise to Retire before the big event!
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