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    October 02, 2020

    Dwarf Fortress ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 05:07 PM PDT

    Ask about anything related to Dwarf Fortress - including the game, utilities, bugs, problems you're having, mods, etc. You will get fast and friendly responses in this thread.

    Read the sidebar before posting! It has information on a range of game packages for new players, and links to all the best tutorials and quick-start guides. If you have read it and that hasn't helped, mention that!

    You should also take five minutes to search the wiki - if tutorials or the quickstart guide can't help, it usually has the information you're after. You can find the previous questions thread here.

    If you can answer questions, please sort by new and lend a hand - linking to a helpful resource (eg wiki page) is fine.

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    ☼Fortress Friday☼

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 05:07 PM PDT

    Our weekly thread for posting interesting events without cluttering up /r/dwarffortress. Screenshots, stories, details, achievements, or other posts are all welcome here! (That includes adventure and legends mode, even if there's no fortress involved.)

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    The Weremoose of Boarblossom

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 09:09 PM PDT

    SteamDF - Ideas for more interesting furniture, here a bed and a table.

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 11:31 PM PDT

    Dwarf Fortress is running an attack on me IRL

    Posted: 02 Oct 2020 02:36 AM PDT

    I made the kitten the fortress champion

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 03:54 PM PDT

    Elves wanted to trade, I had other plans

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 05:50 PM PDT

    Tarn Adams "Toady" Interview, Steam edition and Dwarven Psychology

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 07:04 PM PDT

    !!SCIENCE!! Experiments with memories, stress and happiness: an application of the blank slate hypothesis: update 3

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 07:45 PM PDT

    Just a quick update following on from the additional information from Toady tonight.

    Amendments to the theory of memories and stress

    1. We now know that short term and long term memories work differently, short term memories will not fill an empty slot if a memory of the same group already takes a slot, however multiple memories of the same type can still exist in long term memory. This affects the blank slate hypothesis, we can't flood the short term memory of new dwarfs with 8 fine statues on the way in, but conversely they will only register one corpse if they see 8 on the way in.
    2. It is "probably true" that only certain types of memory can be written to core, but Toady doesn't remember if that's the case for sure, and if so, which memory types can and can't be written. This means that it probably is possible to clog the 8 long term memory slots with happy thoughts that linger until a very strong unhappy memory makes it through.
    3. Toady checked his code and confirmed that there is only two things that affect stress: the emotions that the dwarfs feel from their thoughts, and the 'recentering' of the stress as it creeps back to neutral. (This has been tested by others and the rate has been found to be controlled by a dwarf's anxiety trait.)
    4. Toady confirmed that there is a very old piece of code that grants dwarfs a 'hardness' stat, which is a sort of PTSD rating. The more guts and death that they see, the more their hardness increases, meaning that witnessing sentients die WILL eventually lead to a dwarf becoming immune to corpses. This stat isn't linked into anything else, and isn't reported anywhere. The other two pieces of this type of code are the wildnerness rating which affects how much rain, etc. a dwarf can tolerate, and the alcoholism rating.

    The new information doesn't affect my experiments, but does help to explain a few things, and will inform future experimentation :)

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    Some problem I'm having while trying to get into the game.

    Posted: 02 Oct 2020 01:01 PM PDT

    The learning process is enjoyable, but I think I am getting a severe case confusion of abundance by the sheer amount of ways to make and play worlds...

    I just keep getting into doubt and indecision about if I'm even playing "properly".

    Like "are those the right levels of minerals, civilizations, etc. for the proper DF experience?", "is this the right type of biome?", "am I playing it challengingly enough to be the right way to play?", etc.

    I guess it might be some leftover from having fight with the Dark Souls elitists back then about how the game is not so hard and in turn people telling me that the "right" way to play is to be a game journalist level of dumb noob with tunnel vision and avoid anything remotely resembling gear with god forbid GOOD STATS and grinding to the point of just killing myself to dump the excess souls from the many retries because god forbid it would raise my level above the universally accepted proper level...

    Or maybe the truly extreme sandboxyness and true lack of boundaries of Dwarf Fortress just simply leaves me uncertain and confused on where to go.

    What should I do? Is there some sort of right way to do things or is it not only alright to pick whatever it is what I should do without worry?

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    The Bay 12 Games Report, October 1st, 2020

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 09:55 PM PDT

    Caven Exploration & Problem w/ Guild Halls

    Posted: 02 Oct 2020 11:19 AM PDT

    Minimalism? And continuing stride

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 02:19 PM PDT

    DF, is a fantastic, but with that being said, I've played less than 2 hours of it. UI is hard to learn, mechanics are in depth, I can't remember if there's a tutorial. The graphics are hard to see, etc etc. I'm a huge fan of CDDA, Rimworld, Hearthstone but I just have a really hard time devoting most of my time to learning the mechanics like I did in CDDA. What's the best way to keep pushing yourself, and is there anything that could help make my (or anybody's) experience easier? Or should I stick it out, boot DF up again and just grind? Losing obviously ISNT fun, but that's the goal of this game. I'd much rather lose after a month of in game time than a week. Sorry if it sounds like I'm whining, I really do love this game. Any advice? Thanks!

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    Got bored, cant draw, did anyways. Here you go!

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 03:39 PM PDT

    DevLog 1 October 2020: "Happy October!"

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 09:43 PM PDT

    Future of the Fortress 1 October 2020: "Yeah, we are leaning toward tooltips having info on hotkeys currently, as that seems to be standard practice these days, rather than showing the bindings everywhere all the time."

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 09:51 PM PDT

    Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf! (10/1 through 11/7 - Extra Life 2020!) Starting 7pm EDT!

    Posted: 01 Oct 2020 03:27 PM PDT

    (Now with 100% less Automod! Just kidding, mods. Love you guys.)

    Thumbs up... Let's do this.

    UUUUUUURIST.... McJenkins...

    ----------------------------------------Who's this guy?----------------------------------------

    Hey guys! It's been a year or better since I really was able to stream for any length of time. Did you miss me? I know I have been missing me. I'm /u/Nameless_Archon, and I provide tutorials on how to play Dwarf Fortress every year (health permitting) while I try to raise money for sick kids.

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    What in the name of the glowing pits is this about?

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    It is time to return to our roots, and so we shall: Thirty. Eight. Days. Of. Dwarf.

    Starting on 10/1 and proceeding through the Extra Life 2019 Game Day event on 11/7, I'm going to stream and teach what little I know.

    Dwarves. Every. Single. Day.

    ----------------------------------------But why?----------------------------------------

    I like to do things when there's more than one reason to do them:

    • I like to teach, or at least I have in the past when my health has allowed it.
    • People (crazy people, apparently) like my stream, when I do it.
    • People are always complaining that Dwarf Fortress is hard to learn. (Not really, but let's show it.)
    • It's for charity. I get to collect money for the very same hospital that once helped me as a child.
    • It raises the profile of Dwarf Fortress, a game I regard as a seminal work and personally enjoy.

    ----------------------------------------So how's this going to work?----------------------------------------

    I'm not actually 100% sure yet, but don't tell anyone I said so.

    I'm going to start out like I usually do - streaming a basic, sustainable fortress. However, the reality of the situation is that thirty-three days of Basic Base Building 101 is going to probably bore the pants off people (including me) and I don't really want things to be boring. So we're going to have to do a few things along the way to try to spice things up, and along the way likely reveal that I'm just an average player like everyone else. (Dwarves dying of starvation and frostbite on a glacier? Likelier than you think!)

    Basically, I'll stream in the evenings most days for a few hours. On Saturdays and Sundays, we'll generally run a little longer, but I'm going to stream every day until 11/7 even if it means I have to get up at 3am to do it. On 11/7, we're going to culminate with a 24-hour long livestream, as part of the worldwide Extra Life charity event.

    I don't use Twitter, Facebook, etc. and people may want to donate to Extra Life 2020, even if they're not supporting my efforts directly. Feel free to share my donations link, or to direct people to the charity's main page.

    ----------------------------------------So what's in it for viewers?----------------------------------------

    Well, aside from helping to support my local children's hospital (good vibes, ho!) I'll be pushing out tutorial game(s) live on stream as part of the event. Your donations are a spur in that direction applied to my backside. You can even attend the event with me, since I'll be broadcasting live on my stream the whole time!

    ...but if that's not enough for you?

    • I'm going to get a callout working for donations so everyone can see your generosity!

    Anonymous or not, if I can make it work, everyone will know you're supporting kids that need it. (May take me a day or so. I'm never prepared on day 1. It's almost like professionals have a team, or more time for this stuff...)

    • Donate $10 or more and you may request to have a dwarf named in current and future forts!

    If you're not naming him something awful, it'll even happen. You're welcome to request a trade for the dwarf, if I have one suitable to match it! If we run more than one fort, donator dwarves will show up in all forts after the one where you donated!

    • For $25 or more, you can reserve one of the starting seven instead of a.. <.< >.> ...migrant.

    If none are available, I'll have to use a migrant. (There are still seven dwarves remaining as of this writing, but I won't be advising when the window closes. We call this 'Early cat catches the dwarf'. Move fast.) As above, if you donate on the first fort of our event, we'll put that same dwarf into the starting seven every fort thereafter!

    • For a donation of $100, I'll let you flip the script for a bit.

    Want me to embark on a reanimating evil biome with a necromancer next door? It's your call. I'll save the current stream fort, and start a new one on the spot with settings as close to your request as I can manage on the fly, and run with it until it dies or I do. If someone else flips the script on you before I finish, you can either donate again to flip if back or wait for their fort to exhaust before I resume yours. Your choice. (We call this one 'Last dwarf gets the sock.')

    • Feeling your oats? If you're willing to drop $500, I'll let you flip the whole table and pick the game I'm playing!

    Some limits on this are required for sanity's sake.

    If you're really thinking you'd like to do this, send me a message and we'll work out the details beforehand! At some point, I'll get back to the stream fort, but for a truly generous donation, I'm 100% willing to give up some time and show off anything you'd like, live and on the spot. You can find a link to my Steam profile (which contains a list of potential games I could probably get set up for streaming) here if you're considering this. (And if it's something we can do multiplayer, we can even try that too, which would be a stream first.)

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    Wait....Thirty days of tutorials for Dwarf Fortress as part of a charity drive?

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    Thirty-eight days, actually. It was the wife's idea - she suggested that you folks might like to get a newer version of my original tutorial, and that this might be a good avenue to combine hardcore Dwarf Fortress fanatics, who are already a generous and supporting community, with a charitable cause to support. I didn't have much luck finding a flaw in her reasoning, so I bit the bullet and advertised it at work, too, despite my trepidation regarding drawing personal attention there. (Last year, they contributed a sixth of our total collection, because the players and viewers were far more generous!)

    ---------------------------------------- New and Uncertain Players: ----------------------------------------

    We'll be putting the newest version of the starter pack and Dwarf Fortress through its paces as we (attempt to) start a new tutorial series for v 0.47.04. (Note: If there's an update and it seems relatively bug free, I'll try for the newer version, but I'm aiming this at newer players, so trying to ride the cutting edge isn't really in the cards.)

    Past demonstrations (From v.34 to present) have included glaciers, deserts, sites with necromancer towers adjacent, as well as discussion on how to influence worldgen to get what you want. Our first one will be a more sedate embark, designed and chosen for relatively newer players, and we'll start with worldgen as though we're looking at a fresh install.

    Goal:

    My goal for "Tutorial Night" is to walk new players through an embark using the DF Starter Pack. (Explicit thanks to /u/PeridexisErrant anod others who I admire for their dedication, which is studded with perseverance and ringed with bands of my gratitude! Without those efforts, a tutorial for installing and configuring everything for the game and its add-ons would be a sizable task unto itself. I've actually devoted multiple-hours of stream to demonstrating it 'the hard way'!)

    Along the way, I'll provide examples of the setup and tools I use to play Dwarf Fortress, as a guidepost for new players.

    What I'm really trying to do is give new players a reference point they can come back to on how to set up a world, embark on a site, and stand a reasonable chance of employing a fairly basic and standard design to build a workable fortress wherever they may need to start one.

    Stream Info:

    The channel rules are simple: Respect Wheaton's Law and you'll be fine. Just don't expect the content of the broadcast to be 100% suitable for children; Sorry, kids. I'm much too low-brow for a guaranteed clean broadcast. Get your parents' permission, etc etc.

    If you have questions you might like answered with a demonstration, and not simply a quick post in the weekly questions thread, I'm your guy. I'll do my best to demonstrate just about anything you can think up - aquifers, megaprojects and magma pistons aside. (Minecarts may get covered, but don't expect anything computational or timer based - I'm a casual player, not a dwarven mechanical engineer.)

    You can view the stream here, as well as on the donations page for Extra Life.

    Later Goals:

    At some point in this fortress, I'll walk players through my 'most commonly used' tools in DFHack and in the utilities that come packaged in the DF Starter Pack and how I use them to construct a simple, basic, and tightly run fortress that can support as many dwarves as my PC can haul, defend itself against all comers, and handle just about anything. I also will demonstrate Quickfort at some point for those who've never taken advantage of it!

    We'll certainly touch on Dwarf Therapist, and discuss how I use it to control the behavior and organization of my ants dwarves, including a demonstration of custom professions in action. Sound will be provided by Soundsense so that you're not listening to me play in silence during any lulls, and the off-topic interaction between the audience and myself tends toward the lively (and often ribald).

    New players, your questions (no matter how 'silly' you may think they are) are 100% welcome, as they're the whole point to the broadcast! Join us and ask them!

    If you can't make it (or are not willing to brave my often vulgar displays of unsuitability) and still have questions you can't seem to figure out, post them in the DF Bi-Weekly Questions Thread for this week and I'll do my best to help you overcome your obstacles, if the expert players haven't gotten there first!

    (Obligatory: Yesss... Join usss... Join the Dark Side... We have cookies!)

    ---------------------------------------- More advanced players: ----------------------------------------

    On that note, experienced players who want to follow along are certainly welcome (and often manage to teach me a thing or two, directly or not) but the main thrust of the stream will be to help new players get over the introductory hump to start playing at a deeper level, so you may find yourself paying less attention to the pace of the stream and more attention to your fellow audience members. I do love having a few veterans show up, though, because my fortress designs always get better when I'm shown a method I've never used!

    ----------------------------------------Parting Words---------------------------------------

    Please don't go. The children need you.

    Please donate if you are able.

    On behalf of Riley and Extra Life: Thank you, in advance, for your generosity!

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    Next Event (Day 2) =>

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    ----------------------------------------Progress Readout----------------------------------------

    1. Pre-Broadcast: Completed. You're reading it. You could have read it before this, but I'm lazy and I'm blaming the Automod, since that was the real reason last time. Don't tell anyone.
    2. Broadcast Test: Screw it, we'll do it live! (....just like last time. I'm sensing a pattern...)
    3. Thirty-Eight Days of Dwarf: This is tonight at 7pm EDT! Within 14 days, the VOD will still be up at Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/757831925) but after that, you'll need to wait for a Youtube upload, which may take some time.
    4. Day 1 Youtube Upload ( -link pending- ) is pending broadcast completion!
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